The Craps 5 Count and Method

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In the 1940's, the game of craps became one of the world's most popular games by being easy to offer - all that was needed was a pair of dice. The rules were a bit more complicated: roll 7 or 11 to win, roll 2, 3 or 12 and lose. Then, If the first roll was another number (4,5,6,8,9,10), it had to be rolled again before the number 7 or the original bet lost. That's not too tough, is it?

Really, the game of craps is fairly easy, but there are a lot of other bets on a craps game like hard-ways, ​horn bets, place and buy bets and even more.

The sheer number of bets is confusing! And, the more bets you make at any one time, the more expensive the game is to play. Even if you have a system.

No matter what method of play or system you try; you cannot change the house advantage, which is a fixed number based on probabilities. However, there is a method of betting that may help you identify hot shooters while increasing your comp values called the 5-Count method.

In his 1994 book, Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos, Frank Scoblete writes about the 5 Count method of play:

If you incorporate the Captain’s 5-Count as a part of your betting strategy, you will reduce the total number of shooters you are betting. You will actually eliminate about 57 % of the random rollers. You increase the likelihood that over the course of your session you will be on the hot shooter(s) -- if a hot shooter actually appears. You will also increase your comp value because you will be spending time at the table but expose less of your money to the house edge.

How the 5 Count Works

The 5-Count method for finding hot shooters and reducing a player’s overall risk at the craps table starts with a point number (4, 5, 6, 8, 9,10) and ends with a point number. Let’s take it step by step.

Suppose a new shooter has just received the dice and is on his come-out roll.

If he rolls any of the point numbers on his come-out roll, that constitutes the 1-count. If he rolls a 2, 3, 7, 11, or 12 on the come-out, the count has not started yet.

The second roll after the 1-count is automatically the 2-count, regardless of what number is rolled, and this applies to the 3-count and 4-count as well.

The next roll after the 4-count is the 5-Count only if the number rolled is again one of the point numbers above. If not, it is the 4-count and holding until the 5-Count is achieved. When the 5-Count is achieved, you then begin to place money at risk. You can make a come bet or make a place bet.

If you usually make three come bets you can actually make your first come bet after the three count. You would then make your second come bet after the four count. You don’t take odds on your come bets until after the five count. At this time you would also make your third come bet.

Does it Work?

Since the 5-Count method was first published in 1994 there has been controversy as to whether the method actually works or not. Recent research and computer simulations were done by Dr. Don Catlin, Professor Emeritus of Mathematics at the University of Massachusetts has shown that the 5-Count does everything the Captain said it would, perhaps even more.

Not all sessions will have hot shooters. However, much like a roulette system that counts on some numbers repeating such as the Pivot system, the 5 Count skips the Pass Line altogether and holds the hope that a hot shooter will make many numbers and that will repeat, thus earning a profit, as opposed to the shooter who shoots point-seven, losing the pass line wager very quickly.

Until next time, remember:
"Luck comes and goes...Knowledge stays forever."